John Norseen passes Sept 27

We are saddened to announce the passing last weekend of our esteemed friend and colleague John Norseen, whose words and videos have provided much information and entertainment to us over the last few years. He was 53.

John was introduced to us as an employee of Lockheed Martin, as a semiotics specialist and brain researcher in the area of Biofusion, a field of study which turned out to mean the weaponization of the mind. Johns many emails became the source material for a manuscript, "Outlaw Technology", which remains unpublished, though aspects of it have appeared on this website. In our lengthy correspondence, I found John to be unusually forthcoming on all those weird topics that Intelligence types refrain from discussing---from mind control, to UFOs, to underground labs, to psychotronic technology, to life after death, to telepathy, Zero Point Energy, psychic warfare, to time portals and all those myriad venues of contemporary myth-making that constitute the shadow cast by a mechanistic and reductionist Science. As such, he was a true anomaly among men; well trained intellectually and scientifically, a consultant to numerous branches of the military, think tanks and alphabet agencies, and by my reckoning, a witness to many of the things we casually dismiss as over-the-top nonsense. It is also intensely ironic that at a very challenging point in his professional and personal life, John discovered a wealth of support and friendship among the creative and free thinking community of individuals he reached out to over the last several years of his life.

In spite of his preoccupation with fringe ideas and technology, as a person John was a very conventional individual. He prayed at church, adored his wife and children and dog, loved Penn State football games, lived in a suburb and was passionate about the United States of America, the Armed Services and the people who served with him professionally, both in the service and in industry. In spite of these virtues, John was possessed with an almost heretical belief that something deep and important was missing in his life, creating profound bouts of depression. This conflict became apparent to me through many conversations where I took the role of Devil's Advocate, challenging the morality of the research initiatives he participated in or described. We had finally reached the point in this argument where it was scheduled to become a public debate this fall, at the Pell Center for International Relations in Newport, R.I, thanks to its Director, Dr. Peter Liotta, who recognized in this deliberation an echo of Senator Pell's own fascination and struggle with these topics. It is a wonderful testimony to John that he would stand up in front of an audience of this kind and be willing to publicly confront issues that are so universally swept under the rug by politicians, military and media alike.

I have to believe, in retrospect, that John witnessed things he could not entirely live with, and in turned rebelled against them in a fundamentally deep way, which perhaps he didn't entirely understand himself. We mourn his loss. We grieve with his family and friends, and we wish there were more like him to carry on this debate.


I came across an old paper he wrote, and remembered our time together in 2001.
Everyone around me thought he was a kook and I should not take him seriously.
But I did, and respected his thoughts. But I also recognized he was in tremendous internal
pain, both from his knee replacements and in his heart.

I am saddened by finding his obituary. I was just thinking as I was googleing him that he may
not have survived. Not by the way I saw him drinking in 2001.

I'm sorry I did not keep up with him. I have been through a lot these past 10 years and sought out
peace and obscurity.

I will miss him and perhaps we will continue some of the research we started so many years ago.


dr. D B Karron

Dear Dr. Karron,

I am John's second oldest daughter and ran across this in the same manner as you have but this is the first time that I have seen your comment her eat Duncan's page.

I want to thank you for your kind words and thought. To hear these words from someone who knew him as the 'kooky' professional he was breaks my heart and also lifts it up. I HATE how his addiction was so noticeable by professionals around him for those were some very struggling many years my family went through but I want to let you know that my Dad did not die of his alcoholism. He had been sober for at least the last year of his life and I only saw him have a beer or two in the years before that. What killed him sadly was what is assumed a genetic birth defect that was not effect by his use of drugs and alcohol.

He was in much pain, physically and emotionally, and I want to let you know that he had been walking with out a cane for around 2 years and had come to accept Christ into his life with in his last year of life. Dad received his first copy of the Bible for his 52nd birthday from my Mom, Donna Norseen. He was in such a state of peace and wellness (except for some back pain that was from his parents and his life as a Navy Helicopter pilot). The last year brought so much peace and calmness to our family.

I encourage you to continue with my father's work if you are able. I was blessed to get to accompany my Dad on a business trip the year before he passed to Penn State and participate in what he was doing. I don't necessarily understand it all but was able to see my Dad's face light up as he presented such amazing ideas.

Thank you again for your words and I wish you could have seen my 'kooky' but brilliant Dad in his Prime.

With a full heart,
Sara Norseen

Psychology.BA - Penn State University, University Park